From: Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch> Not a bug necessarily, in text(), but at least an inconsistency, and a need for more documentation: Contrary to e.g., plot(), text(x,y,labels) *does* recycle it's arguments to some extent -- and probably has always in S. However it doesn't do all I think it should, i.e., plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:4]) does recycle 'x' to c(1:2, 1) {length 3} to match 'y' but doesn't recycle to length 4 in order to match 'labels'. While one can well accept this, I believe it should give a warning since it silently 'drops' the "d". However, I'm proposing to consider S(-plus) compatibility here. In S-PLUS 6.1, the result of the above is identical to plot(1:7); text(rep(1:2,length=4), rep(1+ 1:3, length=4), LETTERS[1:4]) i.e. (x,y) is recycled to length 4, the length of 'labels'. Further note that in plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:2], col=2:6) the 'labels' *are* recycled to length 3, matching (x,y) -- but not to length 5 of 'col' which is fine -- just not the other way around. I'd propose that R should recycle all three (x,y,labels) [but not more] to common length. BTW, "grid" graphics do recycle as well, at least grid.text(labels, x, y) does --- and as I see it does also recycle at least the 'rotation'. Martin Maechler

From: Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch> I didn't get any feedback on this posting, so I will commit my proposal to recycle the coordinates (x,y) to the length of 'labels' if the latter is longer (instead of silently dropping the extra labels[] entries). Martin Maechler >>>>> "MM" == Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch> >>>>> on Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:22:05 +0200 (CEST) writes: MM> Not a bug necessarily, in text(), but at least an inconsistency, MM> and a need for more documentation: Contrary to e.g., plot(), MM> text(x,y,labels) *does* recycle it's arguments to some extent -- MM> and probably has always in S. MM> However it doesn't do all I think it should, i.e., MM> plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:4]) MM> does recycle 'x' to c(1:2, 1) {length 3} to match 'y' MM> but doesn't recycle to length 4 in order to match 'labels'. MM> While one can well accept this, I believe it should give a MM> warning since it silently 'drops' the "d". MM> However, I'm proposing to consider S(-plus) compatibility here. MM> In S-PLUS 6.1, the result of the above is MM> identical to MM> plot(1:7); text(rep(1:2,length=4), rep(1+ 1:3, length=4), LETTERS[1:4]) MM> i.e. (x,y) is recycled to length 4, the length of 'labels'. MM> Further note that in MM> plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:2], col=2:6) MM> the 'labels' *are* recycled to length 3, matching (x,y) -- but MM> not to length 5 of 'col' which is fine -- just not the other way around. MM> I'd propose that R should recycle all three (x,y,labels) MM> [but not more] to common length. MM> BTW, "grid" graphics do recycle as well, at least MM> grid.text(labels, x, y) does --- and as I see it does also MM> recycle at least the 'rotation'. MM> Martin Maechler MM> ______________________________________________ MM> R-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list MM> https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel

From: Prof Brian Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote: > I didn't get any feedback on this posting, > > so I will commit my proposal to recycle the coordinates (x,y) to > the length of 'labels' if the latter is longer (instead of > silently dropping the extra labels[] entries). I'd suggest only doing non-fractional recycling (or at the very least warning against fractional recycling). I would expect almost all occurrences of your example would be unintended. > > Martin Maechler > > >>>>> "MM" == Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch> > >>>>> on Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:22:05 +0200 (CEST) writes: > > MM> Not a bug necessarily, in text(), but at least an inconsistency, > MM> and a need for more documentation: Contrary to e.g., plot(), > MM> text(x,y,labels) *does* recycle it's arguments to some extent -- > MM> and probably has always in S. > > MM> However it doesn't do all I think it should, i.e., > > MM> plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:4]) > > MM> does recycle 'x' to c(1:2, 1) {length 3} to match 'y' > MM> but doesn't recycle to length 4 in order to match 'labels'. > > MM> While one can well accept this, I believe it should give a > MM> warning since it silently 'drops' the "d". > > MM> However, I'm proposing to consider S(-plus) compatibility here. > MM> In S-PLUS 6.1, the result of the above is > MM> identical to > MM> plot(1:7); text(rep(1:2,length=4), rep(1+ 1:3, length=4), LETTERS[1:4]) > MM> i.e. (x,y) is recycled to length 4, the length of 'labels'. > > MM> Further note that in > MM> plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:2], col=2:6) > MM> the 'labels' *are* recycled to length 3, matching (x,y) -- but > MM> not to length 5 of 'col' which is fine -- just not the other way around. > > MM> I'd propose that R should recycle all three (x,y,labels) > MM> [but not more] to common length. > > MM> BTW, "grid" graphics do recycle as well, at least > MM> grid.text(labels, x, y) does --- and as I see it does also > MM> recycle at least the 'rotation'. > > MM> Martin Maechler > > MM> ______________________________________________ > MM> R-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > MM> https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > ______________________________________________ > R-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595

From: Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch> >>>>> "BDR" == Prof Brian Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk> >>>>> on Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:50:13 +0100 (BST) writes: BDR> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote: >> I didn't get any feedback on this posting, >> >> so I will commit my proposal to recycle the coordinates (x,y) to >> the length of 'labels' if the latter is longer (instead of >> silently dropping the extra labels[] entries). BDR> I'd suggest only doing non-fractional recycling (or at the very least BDR> warning against fractional recycling). I would expect almost all BDR> occurrences of your example would be unintended. well, as said, both "grid" and S-plus do recycle (w/o warning) in this situation. Do we have precedence cases of "recycling but warn if fractional" ? Martin >> >>>>> "MM" == Martin Maechler <maechler@stat.math.ethz.ch> >> >>>>> on Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:22:05 +0200 (CEST) writes: >> MM> Not a bug necessarily, in text(), but at least an inconsistency, MM> and a need for more documentation: Contrary to e.g., plot(), MM> text(x,y,labels) *does* recycle it's arguments to some extent -- MM> and probably has always in S. >> MM> However it doesn't do all I think it should, i.e., >> MM> plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:4]) >> MM> does recycle 'x' to c(1:2, 1) {length 3} to match 'y' MM> but doesn't recycle to length 4 in order to match 'labels'. >> MM> While one can well accept this, I believe it should give a MM> warning since it silently 'drops' the "d". >> MM> However, I'm proposing to consider S(-plus) compatibility here. MM> In S-PLUS 6.1, the result of the above is MM> identical to MM> plot(1:7); text(rep(1:2,length=4), rep(1+ 1:3, length=4), LETTERS[1:4]) MM> i.e. (x,y) is recycled to length 4, the length of 'labels'. >> MM> Further note that in MM> plot(1:7); text(1:2, 1+ 1:3, LETTERS[1:2], col=2:6) MM> the 'labels' *are* recycled to length 3, matching (x,y) -- but MM> not to length 5 of 'col' which is fine -- just not the other way around. >> MM> I'd propose that R should recycle all three (x,y,labels) MM> [but not more] to common length. >> MM> BTW, "grid" graphics do recycle as well, at least MM> grid.text(labels, x, y) does --- and as I see it does also MM> recycle at least the 'rotation'. >> MM> Martin Maechler >> MM> ______________________________________________ MM> R-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list MM> https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> BDR> -- BDR> Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk BDR> Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ BDR> University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) BDR> 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) BDR> Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 BDR> ______________________________________________ BDR> R-devel@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list BDR> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel

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